At least 17 members of Congress had sensitive information exposed in data breach - CBS News
At least 17 members of Congress had sensitive information exposed in data breach
BY SCOTT MACFARLANE
UPDATED ON: MARCH 21, 2023 / 8:01 AM / CBS NEWS
At least 17 current or former members of Congress had personal information exposed in the hack of the District of Columbia health insurance data system, according to a top Democrat investigating the matter. And that number is expected to rise, he said.
In an interview with CBS News, Rep. Joe Morelle (D-NY) said hundreds of congressional staff may also have suffered a breach of their personally identifiable information. Morelle said, "I think the number can and may grow. I don't know what the probability is. But we've only been able to look through some of the data that's gotten out."
According to multiple reports, the breach might have impacted more than 56,000 people.
The hacking of the DC Health Benefit Exchange Authority data system has triggered at least three investigations and a federal civil lawsuit against the District of Columbia government, CBS News has learned. It has also sent a significant shock through Congress and its staffers.
Democrats organized a members-only briefing with Capitol Police last week and Republicans sought and received permission to join the meeting as well.
Morelle, the top Democrat on the House Committee on House Administration, said the panel has launched a review of the breach, in part to measure how many people who work in Congress have had sensitive information exposed.
In an alert to Congressional staff, the Senate Sergeant at Arms warned the breach exposed the names, Social Security numbers, birth dates, home addresses, email address, phone numbers, race and ethnicity of at least some employees who work at the Capitol.
The FBI has reported that some of the information in the leak has been made available for purchase on the dark web.
Morelle said members of Congress are already in a heightened state of alert about their safety, amid an increase in investigations of threats of political violence. He said, "Members feel increasingly under more scrutiny, and in many cases feel less secure than they probably have and maybe ever have. Whenever information gets out, understandably they are concerned about it."
The FBI and Capitol Police are both investigating the breach. House leaders have warned the exposure of the sensitive information raises the risk that members and staff could suffer identity theft, financial crimes, and physical threats.
In a members-only briefing in the House last week, Capitol Police filled in attendees about its review of the breach and the impact. Morelle said the meeting was organized by House Democratic Leader Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), but was joined by Republicans who were also seeking information about the impact and risks.
A Capitol Police spokesman told CBS News, "Our agents are liaisons with the FBI during this ongoing investigation. There is more work to do before law enforcement can provide more details. In the meantime, the House Chief Administrative Officer is providing helpful information to those who may be impacted."
Morelle said the House review will also inspect whether the DC Health Benefit Exchange Authority has properly and sufficiently tightened its controls against future attacks and breaches.
House Committee on House Administration Chairman Brian Steil (R-WI) said the committee's review could last weeks.
A spokesman for the authority told CBS News, "DC Health Link immediately launched a comprehensive investigation, began working with law enforcement, and engaged a third-party expert forensics firm, Mandiant, to investigate. Our investigation remains ongoing, however the issue which led to this data breach has been identified and eliminated. DC Health Link is working closely with Mandiant to conduct a comprehensive review of its security measures and controls, and we will be implementing new protocols going forward."
The House Chief Administrative Officer has notified House staff they will be offered credit and identity monitoring by the DC Health Link. The notification said they will receive "three years of credit and identity monitoring protection, including tracking through all three credit bureaus, and dark web identity monitoring."
The DC Health Benefit Exchange Authority is facing a class action civil lawsuit because of the breach. The suit seeks a series of court orders against the health exchange service, including a requirement that it "engage independent third-party security auditors and internal personnel to run automated security monitoring." The civil suit was filed Friday in Washington D.C. federal court.
An attorney for the defendants told CBS News that he does not yet plan proactive outreach to members of Congress to join the class action suit, but will accept them into the class.
U.S.
Following a "significant" breach, DC Health Link user data is being sold on the dark web
BY C MANDLER
MARCH 8, 2023 / 9:48 PM / CBS NEWS
DC Health Link — the health insurance marketplace for Washington, D.C., that is used by many White House staffers and their families — reported a data breach on Wednesday, with the FBI reporting that some of the information in the leak had been made available for purchase on the dark web.
In an internal memo sent to U.S. House staffers, House Chief Administrative Officer Catherine L. Szpindor informed recipients of the "significant data breach," which potentially exposed the personal identifiable information (PII) of thousands of employees, and warned them that their data may have been compromised.
"We can confirm reports that data for some DC Health Link customers has been exposed on a public forum. We have initiated a comprehensive investigation and are working with forensic investigators and law enforcement," said DC Health Link in a statement to CBS News.
Capitol Building, Washington, USA
The stars and stripes flag flying at the Capitol Building, Washington, USA.
TIM GRAHAM / GETTY IMAGES
While the internal memo states that the size and scope of the breach is unknown, the FBI confirmed that account information and PII belonging to House members and staff was stolen, but it does not appear that they were specifically targeted in the cyberattack. The FBI also said that while they believe the individuals selling the stolen information did not seem to be aware of its "high-level sensitivity" at the time, continued publicizing of the event would "certainly change" that.
"We are in the process of notifying impacted customers and will provide identity and credit monitoring services. In addition, and out of an abundance of caution, we will also provide credit monitoring services for all of our customers," continued the statement from DC Health Link.
The internal memo closes by suggesting that members freeze their credit, and provides additional precautionary measures to avoid being victims of fraud.
"The FBI is aware of this incident and is assisting. As this is an ongoing investigation, we do not have any additional information to provide at this time," said the FBI in a statement to CBS News.
Biden, McCarthy, and Jeffries
From left, President Joe Biden, Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., and House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La.
J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE / AP
Following the breach, a letter was sent by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries to Mila Kofman, the executive director of the DC Health Benefit Exchange Authority, in which they said they were informed by the FBI that the stolen user data was available for purchase on the dark web — including "names of spouses, dependent children, their social security numbers, and home addresses."
"This breach significantly increases the risk that Members, staff, and their families will experience identity theft, financial crimes, and physical threats — already an ongoing concern," the letter continued, and then went on to ask Kofman when HealthLink will be reaching out to affected persons, and what services will be offered to those whose data has been compromised, along with a reparative plan moving forward.
A post made on Monday to a dark web forum known for its data marketplace appears to advertise the hacked material for sale. The post was updated on Tuesday to say it had been "sold."
DC Health Link said that the investigation is still ongoing, and that they plan to provide more information as it comes.
FACE THE NATION
Transcript: Christopher Krebs on "Face the Nation," March 12, 2023
MARCH 12, 2023 / 12:40 PM / CBS NEWS
The following is a transcript of an interview with cybersecurity expert and analyst Christopher Krebs that aired on "Face the Nation" on Sunday, March 12, 2023.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And turn now to Chris Krebs, who is former director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. He's also a CBS News expert and analyst. It's good to have you here.
CHRIS KREBS: Morning.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Before we get to what's happening with the Silicon Valley Bank, I want to ask you about what has happened with this data breach. We learned on Wednesday that certain members of the House and Senate were told personal data, including like home addresses and social security numbers, was taken from a D.C. health insurance provider. It's like 56,000 people. And then that information is being sold–
KREBS: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Online. Who's behind this?
KREBS: So a cybercriminal, known as IntelBroker, and it's not clear immediately who that person is, where they live. But they have been involved in previous data breaches and attempting to sell information on certain dark web markets. And the point here is that you steal the information, and someone buys it, and then they can monetize it through fraud and identity theft, and things like that. So IntelBroker has previously claimed that they had access to U.S. federal agencies. This is a different case, though, where they've actually taken information, they've put it online, and made it available for sale. FBI was able to get in and buy some of this information. It's not clear if by buying that information, it was deleted on the other end. But you know, that's what happens in this very, very vibrant cybercriminal ecosystem.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So what more does the U.S. government need to do to protect- you know, I mean, some of these staffers and lawmakers are at risk here. How do you protect against that? And is this a state actor? Is there any involvement?
KREBS: You know, it's not- again, it's not clear who the actor is. It's a cybercriminal. It's very possibly a Russian-linked cybercriminal. Russia allows a very pervasive environment and permissive environment for cybercriminals. It actually helps the kind of broader Russian strategic objective to undermine confidence in the U.S.'s ability to protect citizens. It actually brings a significant amount of revenue into Russia. But what happens next is kind of the question. So for one, some of the markets where IntelBroker was selling this information, they've actually deactivated the IntelBroker account reportedly, in part because these markets don't want undue attention. They don't want the FBI coming in and shutting it down. So they try to stay below the radar, same kind of thing happened after the Colonial Pipeline breach that we spoke about about a year and a half, two years ago. So what will happen now is if the information is available for sale, who buys it?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
KREBS: Likely, again, fraudsters, but also possibly security services of our adversaries that are looking to get information on members of Congress for building their own portfolios and dossiers. Political operatives could buy it for opposition research and other- and other purposes. But the hope is that by kind of shading them out of the market and the FBI's disruptive operations, they can ensure that this is not weaponized. This is not information that's used for nefarious purposes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You talk to tech companies and startup companies, I know. A number of the businesses that had their accounts or loans with Silicon Valley Bank are very worried right now.
KREBS: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: They don't have access to cash, even just to pay employees. What are you hearing? Like what is the level of panic here?
KREBS: The biggest challenge right now I think these companies- and again, it is 50% of VC-backed U.S. companies–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Venture capital.
KREBS: –banked with Silicon Valley. It's approximately 60,000 companies. The challenge they're having right now is that they don't have access to information in addition to access to their money. I've talked to a number of companies that are banked with SVB, with Silicon Valley Bank, and they've not heard anything over the weekend. Here's the challenge, though. Most companies pay- issue payroll on the 15th and the last day of the month. The 15th is Wednesday. To make payroll on this upcoming Wednesday, you have to have that money in the bank tomorrow to process. By not having access to information, what money they will have access to tomorrow to process payroll, they're now lining up alternative sources of funding. In some cases, we're seeing predatory loans. So it would be very helpful, as Congressman Khanna pointed out, if we could get some clarity on the situation. And as the Secretary mentioned, some guarantees for those depositors in place today. If the deal comes through today and access to funding is open tomorrow, that's fantastic. But we've got to have some certainty and these company executives need information, they need clarity on what's happening so they can take care of their employees or otherwise–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
KREBS: we're gonna see furloughs next week in the tech industry.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well and you heard the Treasury Secretary say we are in touch, or through the FDIC, are in touch with depositors. But you are also saying publicly there needs to be clear statements of confidence to shore things up–
KREBS: Well, again-
MARGARET BRENNAN: And you didn't get that.
KREBS: We're not getting that right now. And I think this is again, what Congressman Khanna was talking about with the speed of Twitter. Information travels so quickly. Yes, you can have runs on the bank. But you also need to get that information out there in the hands of the 60,000 companies that are banked there, over 250,000 FDIC insured limits so that they can also communicate to their employees. No one wants to miss a paycheck.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
KREBS: And there are millions of employees with paychecks at stake next week.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And I did think it was interesting, because some have said to me, you know, these are medium size, small companies, startups. This isn't big, bad Wall Street, right, it's a little bit more politically easy to convince the public if you want to step in and help smaller businesses. But that- what's happening there with the politics of this?
KREBS: Well, in part, I think that most of your viewers probably hadn't even heard of Silicon Valley Bank until Thursday night, Friday morning. But this really is the economic engine of the United States of America. This is the innovation engine. This is a lot of the future, that tech competition that we talked about with China and others. This is where it's happening. These are the front lines, we really need to ensure that the depositors, again not the shareholders in the bank, but the depositors in the bank have certainty. So we don't see further runs on tech friendly banks next week, at- going to systemically important banks. We really need this diversity in the banking system. So we don't concentrate risk at the top and have a much more fragile banking industry.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The next few hours may be key. And we'll be watching for any update on that. I know we've heard the Israeli Prime Minister spoken on this. The British Finance Secretary has spoken on this, now the Treasury Secretary. We'll see what comes together in the next few hours. Chris, good to have your analysis.
KREBS: Thanks.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And we'll be back with a lot more Face the Nation. Stay with us.
BY SCOTT MACFARLANE
UPDATED ON: MARCH 21, 2023 / 8:01 AM / CBS NEWS
At least 17 current or former members of Congress had personal information exposed in the hack of the District of Columbia health insurance data system, according to a top Democrat investigating the matter. And that number is expected to rise, he said.
In an interview with CBS News, Rep. Joe Morelle (D-NY) said hundreds of congressional staff may also have suffered a breach of their personally identifiable information. Morelle said, "I think the number can and may grow. I don't know what the probability is. But we've only been able to look through some of the data that's gotten out."
According to multiple reports, the breach might have impacted more than 56,000 people.
The hacking of the DC Health Benefit Exchange Authority data system has triggered at least three investigations and a federal civil lawsuit against the District of Columbia government, CBS News has learned. It has also sent a significant shock through Congress and its staffers.
Democrats organized a members-only briefing with Capitol Police last week and Republicans sought and received permission to join the meeting as well.
Morelle, the top Democrat on the House Committee on House Administration, said the panel has launched a review of the breach, in part to measure how many people who work in Congress have had sensitive information exposed.
In an alert to Congressional staff, the Senate Sergeant at Arms warned the breach exposed the names, Social Security numbers, birth dates, home addresses, email address, phone numbers, race and ethnicity of at least some employees who work at the Capitol.
The FBI has reported that some of the information in the leak has been made available for purchase on the dark web.
Morelle said members of Congress are already in a heightened state of alert about their safety, amid an increase in investigations of threats of political violence. He said, "Members feel increasingly under more scrutiny, and in many cases feel less secure than they probably have and maybe ever have. Whenever information gets out, understandably they are concerned about it."
The FBI and Capitol Police are both investigating the breach. House leaders have warned the exposure of the sensitive information raises the risk that members and staff could suffer identity theft, financial crimes, and physical threats.
In a members-only briefing in the House last week, Capitol Police filled in attendees about its review of the breach and the impact. Morelle said the meeting was organized by House Democratic Leader Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), but was joined by Republicans who were also seeking information about the impact and risks.
A Capitol Police spokesman told CBS News, "Our agents are liaisons with the FBI during this ongoing investigation. There is more work to do before law enforcement can provide more details. In the meantime, the House Chief Administrative Officer is providing helpful information to those who may be impacted."
Morelle said the House review will also inspect whether the DC Health Benefit Exchange Authority has properly and sufficiently tightened its controls against future attacks and breaches.
House Committee on House Administration Chairman Brian Steil (R-WI) said the committee's review could last weeks.
A spokesman for the authority told CBS News, "DC Health Link immediately launched a comprehensive investigation, began working with law enforcement, and engaged a third-party expert forensics firm, Mandiant, to investigate. Our investigation remains ongoing, however the issue which led to this data breach has been identified and eliminated. DC Health Link is working closely with Mandiant to conduct a comprehensive review of its security measures and controls, and we will be implementing new protocols going forward."
The House Chief Administrative Officer has notified House staff they will be offered credit and identity monitoring by the DC Health Link. The notification said they will receive "three years of credit and identity monitoring protection, including tracking through all three credit bureaus, and dark web identity monitoring."
The DC Health Benefit Exchange Authority is facing a class action civil lawsuit because of the breach. The suit seeks a series of court orders against the health exchange service, including a requirement that it "engage independent third-party security auditors and internal personnel to run automated security monitoring." The civil suit was filed Friday in Washington D.C. federal court.
An attorney for the defendants told CBS News that he does not yet plan proactive outreach to members of Congress to join the class action suit, but will accept them into the class.
U.S.
Following a "significant" breach, DC Health Link user data is being sold on the dark web
BY C MANDLER
MARCH 8, 2023 / 9:48 PM / CBS NEWS
DC Health Link — the health insurance marketplace for Washington, D.C., that is used by many White House staffers and their families — reported a data breach on Wednesday, with the FBI reporting that some of the information in the leak had been made available for purchase on the dark web.
In an internal memo sent to U.S. House staffers, House Chief Administrative Officer Catherine L. Szpindor informed recipients of the "significant data breach," which potentially exposed the personal identifiable information (PII) of thousands of employees, and warned them that their data may have been compromised.
"We can confirm reports that data for some DC Health Link customers has been exposed on a public forum. We have initiated a comprehensive investigation and are working with forensic investigators and law enforcement," said DC Health Link in a statement to CBS News.
Capitol Building, Washington, USA
The stars and stripes flag flying at the Capitol Building, Washington, USA.
TIM GRAHAM / GETTY IMAGES
While the internal memo states that the size and scope of the breach is unknown, the FBI confirmed that account information and PII belonging to House members and staff was stolen, but it does not appear that they were specifically targeted in the cyberattack. The FBI also said that while they believe the individuals selling the stolen information did not seem to be aware of its "high-level sensitivity" at the time, continued publicizing of the event would "certainly change" that.
"We are in the process of notifying impacted customers and will provide identity and credit monitoring services. In addition, and out of an abundance of caution, we will also provide credit monitoring services for all of our customers," continued the statement from DC Health Link.
The internal memo closes by suggesting that members freeze their credit, and provides additional precautionary measures to avoid being victims of fraud.
"The FBI is aware of this incident and is assisting. As this is an ongoing investigation, we do not have any additional information to provide at this time," said the FBI in a statement to CBS News.
Biden, McCarthy, and Jeffries
From left, President Joe Biden, Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., and House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La.
J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE / AP
Following the breach, a letter was sent by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries to Mila Kofman, the executive director of the DC Health Benefit Exchange Authority, in which they said they were informed by the FBI that the stolen user data was available for purchase on the dark web — including "names of spouses, dependent children, their social security numbers, and home addresses."
"This breach significantly increases the risk that Members, staff, and their families will experience identity theft, financial crimes, and physical threats — already an ongoing concern," the letter continued, and then went on to ask Kofman when HealthLink will be reaching out to affected persons, and what services will be offered to those whose data has been compromised, along with a reparative plan moving forward.
A post made on Monday to a dark web forum known for its data marketplace appears to advertise the hacked material for sale. The post was updated on Tuesday to say it had been "sold."
DC Health Link said that the investigation is still ongoing, and that they plan to provide more information as it comes.
FACE THE NATION
Transcript: Christopher Krebs on "Face the Nation," March 12, 2023
MARCH 12, 2023 / 12:40 PM / CBS NEWS
The following is a transcript of an interview with cybersecurity expert and analyst Christopher Krebs that aired on "Face the Nation" on Sunday, March 12, 2023.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And turn now to Chris Krebs, who is former director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. He's also a CBS News expert and analyst. It's good to have you here.
CHRIS KREBS: Morning.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Before we get to what's happening with the Silicon Valley Bank, I want to ask you about what has happened with this data breach. We learned on Wednesday that certain members of the House and Senate were told personal data, including like home addresses and social security numbers, was taken from a D.C. health insurance provider. It's like 56,000 people. And then that information is being sold–
KREBS: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Online. Who's behind this?
KREBS: So a cybercriminal, known as IntelBroker, and it's not clear immediately who that person is, where they live. But they have been involved in previous data breaches and attempting to sell information on certain dark web markets. And the point here is that you steal the information, and someone buys it, and then they can monetize it through fraud and identity theft, and things like that. So IntelBroker has previously claimed that they had access to U.S. federal agencies. This is a different case, though, where they've actually taken information, they've put it online, and made it available for sale. FBI was able to get in and buy some of this information. It's not clear if by buying that information, it was deleted on the other end. But you know, that's what happens in this very, very vibrant cybercriminal ecosystem.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So what more does the U.S. government need to do to protect- you know, I mean, some of these staffers and lawmakers are at risk here. How do you protect against that? And is this a state actor? Is there any involvement?
KREBS: You know, it's not- again, it's not clear who the actor is. It's a cybercriminal. It's very possibly a Russian-linked cybercriminal. Russia allows a very pervasive environment and permissive environment for cybercriminals. It actually helps the kind of broader Russian strategic objective to undermine confidence in the U.S.'s ability to protect citizens. It actually brings a significant amount of revenue into Russia. But what happens next is kind of the question. So for one, some of the markets where IntelBroker was selling this information, they've actually deactivated the IntelBroker account reportedly, in part because these markets don't want undue attention. They don't want the FBI coming in and shutting it down. So they try to stay below the radar, same kind of thing happened after the Colonial Pipeline breach that we spoke about about a year and a half, two years ago. So what will happen now is if the information is available for sale, who buys it?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
KREBS: Likely, again, fraudsters, but also possibly security services of our adversaries that are looking to get information on members of Congress for building their own portfolios and dossiers. Political operatives could buy it for opposition research and other- and other purposes. But the hope is that by kind of shading them out of the market and the FBI's disruptive operations, they can ensure that this is not weaponized. This is not information that's used for nefarious purposes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You talk to tech companies and startup companies, I know. A number of the businesses that had their accounts or loans with Silicon Valley Bank are very worried right now.
KREBS: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: They don't have access to cash, even just to pay employees. What are you hearing? Like what is the level of panic here?
KREBS: The biggest challenge right now I think these companies- and again, it is 50% of VC-backed U.S. companies–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Venture capital.
KREBS: –banked with Silicon Valley. It's approximately 60,000 companies. The challenge they're having right now is that they don't have access to information in addition to access to their money. I've talked to a number of companies that are banked with SVB, with Silicon Valley Bank, and they've not heard anything over the weekend. Here's the challenge, though. Most companies pay- issue payroll on the 15th and the last day of the month. The 15th is Wednesday. To make payroll on this upcoming Wednesday, you have to have that money in the bank tomorrow to process. By not having access to information, what money they will have access to tomorrow to process payroll, they're now lining up alternative sources of funding. In some cases, we're seeing predatory loans. So it would be very helpful, as Congressman Khanna pointed out, if we could get some clarity on the situation. And as the Secretary mentioned, some guarantees for those depositors in place today. If the deal comes through today and access to funding is open tomorrow, that's fantastic. But we've got to have some certainty and these company executives need information, they need clarity on what's happening so they can take care of their employees or otherwise–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
KREBS: we're gonna see furloughs next week in the tech industry.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well and you heard the Treasury Secretary say we are in touch, or through the FDIC, are in touch with depositors. But you are also saying publicly there needs to be clear statements of confidence to shore things up–
KREBS: Well, again-
MARGARET BRENNAN: And you didn't get that.
KREBS: We're not getting that right now. And I think this is again, what Congressman Khanna was talking about with the speed of Twitter. Information travels so quickly. Yes, you can have runs on the bank. But you also need to get that information out there in the hands of the 60,000 companies that are banked there, over 250,000 FDIC insured limits so that they can also communicate to their employees. No one wants to miss a paycheck.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
KREBS: And there are millions of employees with paychecks at stake next week.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And I did think it was interesting, because some have said to me, you know, these are medium size, small companies, startups. This isn't big, bad Wall Street, right, it's a little bit more politically easy to convince the public if you want to step in and help smaller businesses. But that- what's happening there with the politics of this?
KREBS: Well, in part, I think that most of your viewers probably hadn't even heard of Silicon Valley Bank until Thursday night, Friday morning. But this really is the economic engine of the United States of America. This is the innovation engine. This is a lot of the future, that tech competition that we talked about with China and others. This is where it's happening. These are the front lines, we really need to ensure that the depositors, again not the shareholders in the bank, but the depositors in the bank have certainty. So we don't see further runs on tech friendly banks next week, at- going to systemically important banks. We really need this diversity in the banking system. So we don't concentrate risk at the top and have a much more fragile banking industry.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The next few hours may be key. And we'll be watching for any update on that. I know we've heard the Israeli Prime Minister spoken on this. The British Finance Secretary has spoken on this, now the Treasury Secretary. We'll see what comes together in the next few hours. Chris, good to have your analysis.
KREBS: Thanks.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And we'll be back with a lot more Face the Nation. Stay with us.